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		<title>By: Michael H. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10381</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.roadsandbridges.com

search &quot;news&quot;

http://republicans.transportation.house.gov
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<p>search &#8220;news&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://republicans.transportation.house.gov" rel="nofollow">http://republicans.transportation.house.gov</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sydne Kasle</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10358</link>
		<dc:creator>Sydne Kasle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.itsa.org/</description>
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		<title>By: nerdy db8r</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10346</link>
		<dc:creator>nerdy db8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I love this S/Cite... but I love you all more.  That, and I wana get in on the link sharing like all the cool people!

http://www.joc.com/node/411533

this 1 link has to have 20 applications for it on both sides of the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I love this S/Cite&#8230; but I love you all more.  That, and I wana get in on the link sharing like all the cool people!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.joc.com/node/411533" rel="nofollow">http://www.joc.com/node/411533</a></p>
<p>this 1 link has to have 20 applications for it on both sides of the field.</p>
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		<title>By: TheHutt</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10344</link>
		<dc:creator>TheHutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another good research resource - there&#039;s more than just highways here, by the way. You just have to look around.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/

- Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another good research resource &#8211; there&#8217;s more than just highways here, by the way. You just have to look around.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/</a></p>
<p>- Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10343</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have already sent out an email to my debaters indicating that the site below might be best classified as &quot;NFA-LD Debate Topic - Lesson One.&quot;  Emjoy!

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have already sent out an email to my debaters indicating that the site below might be best classified as &#8220;NFA-LD Debate Topic &#8211; Lesson One.&#8221;  Emjoy!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nerdy db8r</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10342</link>
		<dc:creator>nerdy db8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, Danny - props on the edit button.  I haven&#039;t had to use it yet but I know I will, and soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, Danny &#8211; props on the edit button.  I haven&#8217;t had to use it yet but I know I will, and soon.</p>
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		<title>By: nerdy db8r</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10341</link>
		<dc:creator>nerdy db8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aff teams that are non topical or tricky like this on purpose do destroy debate, at least good debate.  Like I said if a couple people go around with cases like this from the Nat circuit and they go to PSCFA or something like that they will just blow everyone away.  If it is their first time in LD maybe they won&#039;t want to do it anymore.  Maybe they think that they don&#039;t wana play with cheaters.  If even 1 person quits because of something like that then we have destroyed debate.

In some situations when someone ran a bull-sh*t T on me in parli I have said that if the judge votes on that POS I will forfeit the next round.  I only use that when I really think the T is bogus and I am dead serious.  I do not want to play my game if others are going to exclude me from it because they don&#039;t want to talk about something I do.

Besides, destroy debate should be a tag for the fairness standard/voter.  &#039;My definition is superior&quot; belongs on the education or competing interpretations standard/voter.  So we should be using both; it&#039;s not zero-sum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aff teams that are non topical or tricky like this on purpose do destroy debate, at least good debate.  Like I said if a couple people go around with cases like this from the Nat circuit and they go to PSCFA or something like that they will just blow everyone away.  If it is their first time in LD maybe they won&#8217;t want to do it anymore.  Maybe they think that they don&#8217;t wana play with cheaters.  If even 1 person quits because of something like that then we have destroyed debate.</p>
<p>In some situations when someone ran a bull-sh*t T on me in parli I have said that if the judge votes on that POS I will forfeit the next round.  I only use that when I really think the T is bogus and I am dead serious.  I do not want to play my game if others are going to exclude me from it because they don&#8217;t want to talk about something I do.</p>
<p>Besides, destroy debate should be a tag for the fairness standard/voter.  &#8216;My definition is superior&#8221; belongs on the education or competing interpretations standard/voter.  So we should be using both; it&#8217;s not zero-sum.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael H. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10339</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H. Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of the Topic Paper (and a totally U.S. situs for transportation infrastructre reform) David Trumble does say THIS on page 2 of the Topic Paper re: &quot;educational value&quot;:

&quot;This topic will give the debaters a chance to debate a key domestic policy.  We have debated foreign policy topics for 3 of the past 4 years.  It would be educational for our community to delve into our domestic affairs for a year.&quot;

Ergo, the Negative could argue that, although the Affirmative interpretation is artful and semantically defensible, a totally-USA interpretation of the situs of reform is superior for two distinct reasons: (1)  Framer&#039;s Intent; and (2) Superior Educational Value.  (I would expect the debater to specifically cite to the Topic Paper for support, and combined with Nick&#039;s definitions, this becomes a strong argument.)

BTW:  I hope that NFA debaters this year will begin to move away from the hackneyed inflammatory rhetoric typically used in other formats (&quot;The Affirmative definition DESTROYS DEBATE...&quot;) and towards reasonable persuasion (&quot;My definition is clearly superior and should be adopted because...&quot;).  Nothing in the NFA rules either states or implies that good debaters cannot also be good orators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of the Topic Paper (and a totally U.S. situs for transportation infrastructre reform) David Trumble does say THIS on page 2 of the Topic Paper re: &#8220;educational value&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;This topic will give the debaters a chance to debate a key domestic policy.  We have debated foreign policy topics for 3 of the past 4 years.  It would be educational for our community to delve into our domestic affairs for a year.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ergo, the Negative could argue that, although the Affirmative interpretation is artful and semantically defensible, a totally-USA interpretation of the situs of reform is superior for two distinct reasons: (1)  Framer&#8217;s Intent; and (2) Superior Educational Value.  (I would expect the debater to specifically cite to the Topic Paper for support, and combined with Nick&#8217;s definitions, this becomes a strong argument.)</p>
<p>BTW:  I hope that NFA debaters this year will begin to move away from the hackneyed inflammatory rhetoric typically used in other formats (&#8220;The Affirmative definition DESTROYS DEBATE&#8230;&#8221;) and towards reasonable persuasion (&#8220;My definition is clearly superior and should be adopted because&#8230;&#8221;).  Nothing in the NFA rules either states or implies that good debaters cannot also be good orators.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.socal-ld.net/2009/08/07/resources-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-10337</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the word domestic could also be very helpful in limiting the discussion to the United States - why else include it?  There may be a persuasive argument that the inclusion of the word domestic, rather than &quot;a&quot; makes a big difference in the topic.  &quot;reform a transportation infrastructure&quot; certainly allows to do anything anywhere.  But both domestic and USFG in the same sentence, at least in my mind, makes a strong connection on what is topical.

The big problem is, when debate is treated more of a game than an educational enterprise, is that a team who is running an international case, will have prepared MORE for topicality than the negative.  They will have answers to all the knee-jerk reactions and thus have the upper hand.   By running topicality, perhaps as the only defense in that case, you are playing into the aff&#039;s advantage.  Rather than debating transportation infrastructure you are debating topicality.

I wonder, if you run against an international case, if the same generic negative solvency evidence will apply - ie, the negative solvency block you can run against any transportation infrastructure case would also be applicable in that case.  I can almost guarantee that the ONLY front line answers the affirmative debater will have will be the topicality answers.

Bottom line, when you run against crazy cases, do not just run topicality - you are already running uphill because their 1AR answers will be STRONG....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the word domestic could also be very helpful in limiting the discussion to the United States &#8211; why else include it?  There may be a persuasive argument that the inclusion of the word domestic, rather than &#8220;a&#8221; makes a big difference in the topic.  &#8220;reform a transportation infrastructure&#8221; certainly allows to do anything anywhere.  But both domestic and USFG in the same sentence, at least in my mind, makes a strong connection on what is topical.</p>
<p>The big problem is, when debate is treated more of a game than an educational enterprise, is that a team who is running an international case, will have prepared MORE for topicality than the negative.  They will have answers to all the knee-jerk reactions and thus have the upper hand.   By running topicality, perhaps as the only defense in that case, you are playing into the aff&#8217;s advantage.  Rather than debating transportation infrastructure you are debating topicality.</p>
<p>I wonder, if you run against an international case, if the same generic negative solvency evidence will apply &#8211; ie, the negative solvency block you can run against any transportation infrastructure case would also be applicable in that case.  I can almost guarantee that the ONLY front line answers the affirmative debater will have will be the topicality answers.</p>
<p>Bottom line, when you run against crazy cases, do not just run topicality &#8211; you are already running uphill because their 1AR answers will be STRONG&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: nerdy db8r</title>
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		<dc:creator>nerdy db8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NFA rules demand that it is 1 page in length...
wtb rule change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFA rules demand that it is 1 page in length&#8230;<br />
wtb rule change?</p>
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